MORE ON THE STATE OF  DATABASE PRACTICE
with Fabian Pascal

 

 

 

Date: July 20, 2003
From: DCJ

To: Editor


I have been in the computer field since I started my career way back in '85. My understanding and application of database theory is largely due to the 3rd edition of INTRODUCTION TO DATABASE SYSTEMS (C.J.Date). (E.F.Codd's original articles in CACM are the other treasures I keep). I still have the copy of the book in my shelf and quite often I refer to it and get a lot of insight. To add to this collection I have PRACTICAL ISSUES IN DATABASE MANAGEMENT and your website.
 
I work in financial services industry with a big database to support the business operations. Time and again we spend days fixing data quality issues. For some time I have convinced myself that the way we have built the applications is wrong.

 

There is no quality in the people and processes we specify to automate. There is a serious lack of software engineering methodology. When I started looking at the dbdebunk.com I was more convinced of my knowledge and tried to explain it to my colleagues and the bosses that the data models, and table designs they do are fundamentally wrong. And that there are database books/articles that explain the data fundamentals succinctly. And it is time that we applied these principles.

 

All the time they finish the conversation with a remark such as "It is all theory man. In practice we don't have to stick to them. Text book ideas don't work in practical world!” I had such a frustration that all my colleagues, when I disagree with them, dub me as having an "attitude" problem. 

 

These are the folks that have gone up the ladder with such titles as "Enterprise Architect", "Application Architect", "Database Architect" (and "specialists" in each of these categories!).  They are so called because they are tools specialists. Whatever they do, they do it with a tool. For example, if they want to understand the business processes they want a process-modeling tool. If they want to understand the data and relationships, they want a data-modeling tool. What if they want to list down the tasks? Sure, they want a project management tool. They need tools for developing code. Tools for everything!

 

In such a setting the fundamental principles are a casualty!! Sure, the folks at the top of the ladder who promote them are no less dumb than these. It is sad to see that a good team of developers is led by people with no formal computer education. And that is a curse on the IT industry as a whole, I think.
 

From: Fabian Pascal

To: DCJ

 

You are describing accurately not just the reality at your company, but for the entire IT industry and, I may venture to say, the US business culture in general.

 

This is a society that prides itself on being "efficient" economically, but thoroughly violates the foundation for efficiency: knowledge. Efficiency requires that vendors and buyers be fully informed, yet the IT industry not only does not reward scientific knowledge and education, but it actually punishes them via marginalization, as you found out yourself when you would not conform. This is instilled in people in not less an effective way than the soviet system was instilling its doctrine (I know, because I ran away from there). Given this culture, nothing else should be expected from database practice.

 

People who are not taught how to think/reason for themselves find it hard to do so and avoid it by reliance on tools; in turn, tools are created to stop them from thinking. This "cookbook approach" is now corrupting even academia, whose main function is precisely to combat this, but has succumbed to industry pressure too.

 

Here is one of favorite pronouncements on the matter by one of the smartest there was:


The ongoing process of becoming more and more an a-mathematical society is more an American specialty than anything else (It is also a tragic accident of history).
 
The idea of a formal design discipline is often rejected on account of vague cultural/philosophical condemnations such as "stifling creativity"; this is more pronounced in the Anglo-Saxon world where a romantic vision of "the humanities" in fact idealizes technical incompetence. Another aspect of that same trait is the cult of iterative design.

Industry suffers from the managerial dogma that for the sake of stability and continuity, the company should be independent of the competence of individual employees. Hence industry rejects any methodological proposal that can be viewed as making intellectual demands on its work force. Since in the US the influence of industry is more pervasive than elsewhere, the above dogma hurts American computing science most. The moral of this sad part of the story is that as long as the computing science is not allowed to save the computer industry, we had better see to it that the computer industry does not kill computing science.

--E. Dijkstra

 

 

Posted 09/26/03

 

 

 

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