IN SUPPORT OF DEBUNKING
with Fabian Pascal

 

 

 

From: Gregory Paul Charest

Date: 31 Mar 2006

 

Just a brief note to say that I continue to appreciate your work and website and to add that … I’ve often thought that Scott Ambler’s only real skills lie in the area of self promotion.

 

 

From: Remco Greve

Date: 2 Apr 2006

 

I am a database ignoramus but in my defense I am aware of it and trying to better myself by learning. I bought Mr Date’s book DATABASE IN DEPTH and it was very useful for me.

 

I had an exchange with Scott W. Ambler where he tried to explain to me what a “unidirectional relation or relationship” was in the strawman discussion you linked to. The concept of direction of a relationship in real world seems is not very logical. Can you explain it to me. Or is it like I suspect just nonsense.

 

 

From: Mark Rohn

Date: 7 Apr 2006

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, I've been looking at this agile modeling stuff. They say that:

 

AM is not a prescriptive process, in other words it does not define detailed procedures for how to create a given type of model, instead it provides advice for how to be effective as a modeler.  AM is “touchy-feely” in that it is not hard and fast – think of AM as an art, not a science.

 

If you understand the problem, normalize correctly, and model correctly, adding features would be very easy. So that makes all this agile stuff just a lot of shit!!

 

 

 

From: Robert Trujillo

Date: 31 Mar 2006

 

Your quote of the week is just too funny!

 

There have been many who have argued that the relational model is all-encompassing, and that is definitely true.  But just because you 'can' do something with a particular solution, it doesn't necessarily mean that you 'should' do something with a particular solution, or even that the solution is ideal in all cases.

 

If it wasn't for the first sentence talking about the relational model, you'd swear the author was talking about XML! I wonder if he understood that he shot holes in his argument with that one sentence and reaffirmed the first author’s assertion, "XML is an alleged solution looking for a problem."

 

Fantastic. Keep up the good work.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

As I keep saying: the abysmal failure of the US (and increasingly whole Western) educational system is not only that it produces arrogant ignorance, but also inability to reason.

 

 

From: Gene Wirchenko

Date: 31 Mar 2006

 

While probably not intentional, it was a good joke on me to read my name in the Quote of the Week (as MC for Fool of the Week).  I am still looking around nervously.  Thumbs up!

 

I do like the idea of the Vociferous Ignorance Hall of Fame, but I just do not have the stamina to read through all of the nonsense in one sitting.  I get enough of Dawn's nonsense in comp.databases.theory.

 

Keep fighting the good fight.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

The joke was not on you, but on Bradford.

 

It's not for any rational knowledgeable person to read [that would be torture] but just to serve as evidence in support of induction, so that nobody can claim there is no basis.

 

In any case, many of the items are my own debunkings, which are rather short. I don't have much patience for crap either.

 

 

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