ON ‘I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING BUT…’
with Fabian Pascal

 

 

 

From: Jesper Larsson 

Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006

 

Two of my absolute favorite websites are dbdebunk.com and dvdforum.nu, where the latter is a Swedish movie discussion forum with nothing to do with database technology, so I was quite baffled to find your "quote of the week" referring to dvdforum.nu. However, your source of the interesting quote is questionable. "mynock" has posted the text you quote. However, if you could read Swedish you would realize that the first line of mynock's post says "Don't know anything about the subject, but perhaps:…", so arguably it's not very nice to attribute the quote to him. (But of course you could say that he made the same mistake in not citing his original source--who apparently does not know anything about the subject either.) If you google for it you find it, I'm afraid, in several other places on the Internet.

 

Incidentally, the "jla" that posted a reference to your book later in the thread (probably why you found it) is me.

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

Well, my main issue is with the content of the quote, not with the quoter, although I believe that those who state or quote incorrect content should be exposed.

 

If you can find out who said that, I will add the source to the quote.

 

(Mixing Swedish and English is sure to cause this kind of problems).

 

 

From: Jesper Larsson

 

Probably not the original source either, but the definition of normalization at whatis.com ("The leading IT encyclopedia and learning center") appears at a glance to be the same text. A bit worse than finding it in a movie discussion forum in my view. Some wordings are exactly the same as in the wikipedia.org entry for normalization, so perhaps this text was at one time the Wikipedia entry.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

Can't you ask Mynock?

 

 

From: Jesper Larsson 

 

He replied to the cc he got of my original e-mail, but he just says he "Googled it up" and seems pretty uninterested. He probably doesn't know exactly where he got it.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

Well, then, he's responsible for disseminating it and the quote should stay as is.

 

 

From: Jesper Larsson

 

Fair enough. But since he doesn't care it's possible that exactly nobody except you cares that he posted it there, while the fact that a quasi-official source like Whatis.com/SearchSQLServer.com list these crazy definitions is something that more people are likely to find bothersome.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

That's a separate issue, and I sometimes do quote from official sources. This one also demonstrates that people quote from such sources without knowing that they are wrong.

 

 

Posted 3/31/06

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