From: Thomas Kyte

Date: 25 Sep 2005

 

Since I mentioned you and an exchange we had.

 

I enjoyed reading the Monash conversation as it was happening.

 

Ed. Note: On the Monash exchanges (hard to call it a conversation) see Monash Balderdash, Commentary on Some Remarks by Curt Monash, Guess Who and Where Is the Fraud, and How to save face when you don't have a clue?

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

Well, it's hard to know whether to laugh or cry.

 

The Monashes exist and publish because only Fabian Pascal calls a spade a spade, and it's easy to marginalize him, after all he can't be right and everybody wrong. Now you know why you shouldn't have given up your debunking intention.

 

 

From: Simon Striebig

Date: 25 Sep 2005

 

[Regarding What Oracle Professionals Think of Fabian Pascal?], I wanted to show Paul, the originator of the thread, that not all Oracle DBMS users run with the herd and that it is worth learning more so I replied citing examples of :-

 

·         Oracle extensions ROWID/ROWNUM in which I question the wisdom of offering them

 

·         Oracle's constraint support in which I challenge the posters to state whether they consider Oracles constraint support adequate

 

·         User defined type support , even the most rudimentary SQL style domains are still not properly supported by Oracle DBMS

 

 

Reply number 24 if you are interested.

 

Doubt the detractors will reply to specific examples .

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

Good for you.

 

I posted a couple of short comments myself, to draw attention to what they usually do when they're forced to talk about things they don't know and may have difficulty comprehending.

 

The reason there is so much arrogant ignorance in the industry is because only Fabian Pascal calls a spade a spade. Therefore, it is easy to marginalize him; after all, he cannot be right and everybody else wrong, ain't it?

 

Things will get worse and worse until the good guys will join me in speaking truth to ... ignorance and incompetence.

 

 

From: Simon Striebig

 

Thanks for the encouragement .

 

I corrected a typo before the pack animals zeroed in on it so my reply is actually number 25, not 24 as I stated.

 

The only good guy who really knew the fundamentals that I have worked with decided to call it a day about 5 years ago.

 

 

From: Fabian Pascal

 

My guess is that's exactly what they would have zeroed in. It happens over and over in such situations and it's pretty predictable.

 

Posted 9/30/05